Time Out for Women

YEA! I found this thread early this time. we need to keep it on the first page! I will try to find something this time. I know I have been slacking and I am sorry. For some reason I have had a hard time finding things to contribute with the lessons. which is funny and silly cause the Book of Mormon is the scripture I am most familiar with and LOVE!
thanks to those who are still here.....and contributing.

ctr2002

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Posted: 15 Apr 2008 07:55 AM
Subject: "For a Wise Purpose" - BOMSG - Lesson 14

I"ll contribute this week too... or will try to. Even though I'm not teaching... =)

whitlarson

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Posted: 15 Apr 2008 11:28 AM
Subject: "For a Wise Purpose" - BOMSG - Lesson 14

Did anybody save a link to the thread where we were discussing Omni?

It had to do with the footnote in Omni. He says, "I of myself am a wicked man" and the footnote says, "confession, honesty, humility." Interesting. Anyhow - we discussed it a bit and I didn't save it and it is long gone....

verily

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Posted: 15 Apr 2008 10:20 PM
Subject: "For a Wise Purpose" - BOMSG - Lesson 14

I vaguely remember the Omni conversation...but don't usually save anything. sorry.

ctr2002

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Posted: 15 Apr 2008 10:29 PM
Subject: "For a Wise Purpose" - BOMSG - Lesson 14

nopers

sorry

whitlarson

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Posted: 16 Apr 2008 10:44 AM
Subject: "For a Wise Purpose" - BOMSG - Lesson 14

Well, the book of Enos first... any thoughts? He is a prophet that we often use as an example in Primary when discussing prayer.

This lesson is about the scriptures themselves... interesting that as Enos prayed, "that the Lord God would preserve a record of my people, the Nephites; even if it so be by the power of his holy arm, that it might be brought forth at some future day unto the Lamanites, that, perhaps, they might be brought unto salvation"

whitlarson

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Posted: 16 Apr 2008 10:50 AM
Subject: "For a Wise Purpose" - BOMSG - Lesson 14

On the subject of prayer, I re-read Elder Bednar's talk from conference:

http://lds.org/conference/talk/display/0,5232,23-1-851-31,00.html

Prayer is a privilege and the soul�s sincere desire. We can move beyond routine and �checklist� prayers and engage in meaningful prayer as we appropriately ask in faith and act, as we patiently persevere through the trial of our faith, and as we humbly acknowledge and accept �not my will, but Thine, be done.�

ctr2002

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Posted: 16 Apr 2008 10:55 AM
Subject: "For a Wise Purpose" - BOMSG - Lesson 14

I think Enos is fabulous.

He speaks to my heart. I think more than just about anybody else in the Book of Mormon.

Except maybe Ammon...

I need to think on this.

verily

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Posted: 18 Apr 2008 12:03 AM
Subject: "For a Wise Purpose" - BOMSG - Lesson 14

I really like Enos also. and he and prayer really do go well together especially in primary. I think because he was hunting when he prayed, I kindof think of him as the redneck of the group! don't know why since really they all hunted for food and such. silly me.

Prayer has been a big focus for me this year. I have tried to make my prayers more meaningful. I am good at it when I am going through trials..I want to be good at it when I am not. so...one odd thing I did was make a prayer shawl. I know it's not really a mormon thing to do......but I wanted to make my prayers more an event...does that make sense.. anyways, I don't use it all the time. but want to more. and mostly I just wrap myself in it so I am warm while I pray.
anyone have any experience or thoughts on prayer shawls???

whitlarson

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Posted: 18 Apr 2008 11:33 AM
Subject: "For a Wise Purpose" - BOMSG - Lesson 14

So, in my reading this week I started thinking about Enos, Jarom, Omni, Amaron, Chemish, Abinadom and Amaleki... Jarom says, "these plates are small" - twice. He is pointing out that he doesn't have a lot of room left to write. And then Amaleki says, "these plates are full." So, we know that they had very little space left to write. I think that sometimes I have thought - wow, they should have written more... but they couldn't, could they?

It is interesting that Amaleki had the last say, no descendants and he was able to get the plates to King Benjamin. It always makes me sad when Amaleki talks about his missing brother at the end of his writing...

I love how Enos starts out praying for himself, then prays for the people he loves (Nephites) and then for his enemy (Lamanites). He understands that this record was preserved for the descendants of his enemy and he prays that it WILL be preserved for them that they "might be brought unto salvation."

I also love Enos' final testimony, "I have declared [the word] in all my days, and have rejoiced in it above that of the world." I love the thought of rejoicing in the Word more than the world.

I love that even though Jarom doesn't have a lot of space to write, he takes the time to bear his testimony. And, he says about the scriptures thus far, "what could I write more than my fathers have written? For have not they revealed the plan of salvation? I say unto you, Yea; and this sufficeth me."

When I read Omni this week (coming on the heels of reading The Peacegiver)... as I read his words, "I of myself am a wicked man, and I have not kept the statutes and the commandments of the Lord as I ought to have done" - I just thought, well... we can surely all say that. I know that I for one have not kept the statutes and the commandments of the Lord as I ought to have done.

It is sad to me when Omni's grandson, Abinadom, writes, "I know of no revelation save that which has been written..."

HIS son, Amaleki, though, was born in the time of Mosiah and died when Benjamin was King... and he bears a beautiful testimony, "exhorting all men to come unto God, the Holy One of Israel, and believe in prophesying, and in revelations, and in the ministering of angels, and in the gift of speaking with tongues, and in the gift of interpreting languages, and in all things which are good; for there is nothing which is good save it comes from the Lord."

He asks us to "come unto Christ, who is the Holy One of Israel" and to "offer [our] whole souls as an offering unto him, and continue in fasting and praying, and endure to the end..."

Mormon talks about the times these men lived through with the "false Christs... false prophets, and false preachers and teachers..." He says, "king Benjamin, with the assistance of the holy prophets who were among his people... by laboring with all the might of his body and the faculty of his whole soul, and also the prophets, did once more establish peace in the land." So, we move through about 400 years...

whitlarson

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Posted: 18 Apr 2008 11:41 AM
Subject: "For a Wise Purpose" - BOMSG - Lesson 14

Oh, another thing this week was a fun scripture chase coming from Enos being told, "go to, thy faith hath made thee whole." I love those words and I loved going through and reading other times when they were spoken by Christ.

There is so much more to being "whole" than being cured... it is being healed.

penelopeanne

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Posted: 18 Apr 2008 03:24 PM
Subject: "For a Wise Purpose" - BOMSG - Lesson 14

My planning this lesson takes on a personal meaning. As I plan I must plan for dh. DH can identify with the desires of Enos, and other prophets that are not always the first to be talked about.

I plan for a group of English speakers with varying degrees of understanding....mostly in the trying to understand but I don't know what to do phase. It is a challenge to teach this group but I'm learning that the more I prepare for them the more they learn.

I don't have insights yet but I'm sure I will

Thanks Whit for doing this.

Gail

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